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wants to give tax cuts to the wealthy and to voucherrize medicare. romney will say he is the defender of the middle class. one thing both sides say this, could get heated tonight. >> we go to jim lehrer of pbs, moderating this debate. >> jim: i'm jim lehrer. i welcome you to the first of the 2012 presidential debates, between president barack obama, the democratic nominee, and former massachusetts governor, mitt romney, the republican nominee. this debate and the next three, two presidential, one vice-presidential, are sponsored by the commission on presidential debates. tonight's 90 minutes will be about domestic issues and will follow a format designed by the commission. there will be six roughly 15-mute segments, with two-minute answers for the first question. then open discussion for the remainder of each segment. thousands of people offered suggestions on segment subjects or questions via the internet and other means. but i made the final selections. and for the record, they were not submitted for approval to the commission or the candidates. the segments, as i announced in advan

government. >> that trickle down government phrase looks like an attempt to neutralize attacks on his tax plan as just one more version of, quote, trickle down economics. romney did some major cleanup work yesterday on the comment that had been the most damaging to his campaign in the last few weeks, the 47% comment. >> clearly, in a campaign with hundreds if not thousands of speeches and question and answer sessions, now and then you'll say something that doesn't come out right. in this case i said something that is just completely wrong. i absolutely believe, however, that my life has shown that i care about a hundred percent. >> that's what he said. everything he said there he said was completely wrong. does raise this question. how many resets can a presidential nominee have? take a look at romney's shifting responses over the last three weeks on 47% to put it all in perspective. >> as i point out i recognize that among those that pay no tax approximately 47% of americans i'm not likely to be highly successful with a message of lowering taxes. you know, it's not elegantly stated. let

and your taxes. >> unlike president obama, i will not raise tax on the middle class of america. >> i want to reform the tax code so it's simple, fair. >> the candidates' opinions couldn't be more different and the stakes couldn't be higher. >> their philosophy is if you don't are health insurance, don't get sick. >> now is the moment we can do something. and with your help, we will do something. >> cnbc's coverage of the first presidential debate of the 2012 presidential election begins now. >> tonight some of the most influential figures in the nation on the economy join us here on cnbc. >> we've got representative and hopeful ron paul with us. texas, from texas. he is of course outspoken about the federal reserve policies. robert reich is here with us tonight. also with us grover norquist. the man behind the no new taxes pledge so many republicans made. and bob lutz a former top auto executive. the auto bailout expected to be a big topic tonight. and we've got president of the aflcio. unions of course a major constituency. and roger altman. as you can see the lineup card is full. going

is not where we've been but where we're going. governor romney has a perspective that says if we cut taxes, skewed toward the wealthy, and roll back regulations that we'll be better off. i've got a different view. i think we've got to invest in education and training. i think it's important for us to develop new sources of energy here in america. that we change our tax code to make sure that we're helping small businesses and companies that are investing here in the united states. that we take some of the money that we're saving as we wind down two wars to rebuild america. and that we reduce our deficit in a balanced way that allows us to make these critical investments. now, it ultimately is going to be up to the voters, to you, which path we should take. are we going to double down on the top-down economic policies that helped to get us into this mess, or do we embrace a new economic patriotism that says america does best when the middle class does best in and i'm looking forward to having that debate. >> governor romney, two minutes. >> thank you, jim. it's an honor to be here with you.

knows taxes are due on april 15. we set up tax centers on the base three months prior and we take active duty military personnel off their regular duties and they go in and assist people with their taxes. you have people assisting with federal and state taxes. we provide nothing of the sort for voting registration. the move act was supposed to get offices set up on the basis. everybody could have gone in to check in with that voting assistance officer. that has never been in place while we were on active duty. we don't want a stack of voter registration ballots sitting on a counter somewhere. we want them to physically go in and say whether they want to register or not. this is the only way we can track it and find out if it is sure apathy which i find hard to believe. or is it just not having access? host: there is a project called a military voter protection project and they compared 2008 ballot requests and 2012 ballot requests and looking at key states, they thought there was a great difference as far bell requests. do you believe there is a significant difference? guest: this is hor

that says, if we cut taxes, skew toward the wealthy, and roll back regulations we will be better off. i have a different view. i think we have to invest in education and training. i think it is important for us to develop new sources of energy here in america, that we change our tax code to make sure we are helping small businesses and companies here in the united states. that we take some of the money we are saving as we wind down two wars to rebuild america, and that we reduce our deficit in a way that makes us ablet -- that makes it able for us to create critical investments. it is up to you. are we going to go from the top down, which is what got us into this mess, or do we embrace the new economic patriotism that says america does best when the middle class does best? i'm looking forward to having that debate. >> governor romney. >> thank you, jim. i appreciate the chance to be with the president. appreciate the university of denver and their welcome. congratulations to you, mr. president, on your anniversary. i am sure this is the most dramatic place you could imagine, here with me. so

could be accurate or not. what is the person saying there should not be a millionaire tax or should be. who is the special interest dominating that message point coming out and how does the voter get through it? i think one the most amazing thicks happening in the country when you look at the president number heys doing well. what's fascinated about the amount of money being spent by the cross roads and the entity for some reason the message is not coming through it's not compel fpg you look at the swing states that we were going to be remarkably close are going to trend toward tbhawm a way that somebody thinks to seem unless the debate set the presidential election. it's clear the spt heading toward a environment he has a advantage. romney is going to be exceptional. >> tune in. >> fiewn in and watch. let watch. >> i'm excited. >> talk about in next week in class. >> would you taunt the cross road different and you engage in more localized races congressional and senate how you choose your priorities since so you have a broader scope. >> yeah. that's a good question. we're focused on

and in this country, taxed more. if you tax small business, they are not going to hire. i don't know how you don't figure out what mr. romney so eloquently said in that debate. talking about politics of the 1% or the 47%, conservatives want the best for all folks, and yes, we mean thewe don't want them trapped in poverty. we want them married, paying their taxes -- host: we will get katrina vanden heuvel's response. guest: yeah. listen, if marriage will promote the well-being of the couple, children, great. but in my mind, it is and not just that. that is too simplistic. it is part of the equation. without good jobs, without ensuring that workers have rights and a time -- at the time when big business is so powerful, without doing small things that happened around this country but have taken too much effort, giving women, families early child care, the sense of a community coming together to lift up families, marriages not sufficient. to reduce it to that is too simplistic. no one is saying marriage isn't important. it is not the only a factor in building a family that is doing well. the fact th

. governor romney says he would bring relief to the middle class. >> i don't have a $5 trillion tax cut. i don't have a tax cut that you're talking about. we should provide relief to the people in the mid class. high income people are doing just fine in this income, they'll do fine whether you're president or i am. the people having a hard time right now are middle income americans. under the president's policy middle income americans have been buried, they are being crushed. jon: mr. obama with this argument. >> the fact is that if you are loring the rates you describe, governor, then it is not possible to come up with enough deductions and loopholes that only affect high income individuals to avoid either raising the deficit or burden evening the middle class, it's math, it's arithmetic. jon: today it's back to the campaign trail. mr. obama in denver, and then to wisconsin. governor romney is in virginia where the most recent "real clear politics" average shows president obama leading with 47% of the vote, governor romney with 44. virginia has 13 electoral votes up for grabs. that's wher

is really clear. we're giving people a clear choice. >> paul ryan was asked about the tax cuts for the millionaires proposed by romney and ryan's budget plans. he was a guest on fox news sunday with chris wallace and the vice presidential candidate made some missteps of his own. >> how much would it cost? >> it's revenue neutral. >> i'm just talking about -- the cut in tax rates. >> the cut in tax rates is lowered for all americans by 20%. it's revenue neutral. >> it's not unless you take away the deductions. we're going to get to that. the first half. lowering the tax rates. does that cost $5 trillion? >> no. >> the master of the power point was having a hard time making a point. let's break down what paul ryan is actually saying here. romney and ryan will give $5 trillion in tax breaks to the wealthiest americans. subtract an unspecified amount of money of unnamed deductions. somehow you're going to get a revenue neutral tax plan. it's a plan so bogus not even a fox news host can understand it. >> you haven't given me the math. >> i don't have the -- it would take me too long

tax plan without blowing up the deficit or sticking it to the middle class. that's the math . we can't afford to go down that road again. >> steve: so the day after his terrible performance even the new york times called him president xannex. they have gone in damage control mode . they were portraying romney as an extremist and now back to romney is a flip-flopper and a big fact liar . >> brian: i thought the senator was right when team obama got a earful. the strategy was to lay back and not make major mistakes. governor romney will be a true choice. he defined himself as competent and capable . he was making himself relevant and holding the job. that's what you walk away . he undid over two million worth of advertising. >> gretchen: he had a answer about the five billion, trillion argument that the president said. he said that is not my tax plan. and you can see the difference when they are on a stage together going after each another and back out on the stump. on the stump you can say whatever you want. these are people supporting each cand date. this is a moment romney respondin

on tax policy, energy, medicare reform, your hometown newspaper has taken to calling you senator gone. you've got one of the worst attendance records in the united states senate. now, in my capacity as vice president, i am the president of the senate, the presiding officer. i'm up in the senate most tuesdays when they're in session. the first time i ever met you was when you walked on the stage tonight. with respect to israel and palestine, gwen, the suicide bombers in part were generated by saddam hussein, who paid $25,000 to the families of suicide bombers. i personally think one of the reasons that we don't have as many suicide attacks today in israel as we had in the past is because saddam's no longer in business. we've been strong supporters of israel. if president stepped forward and put in place a policy basically that said we will support the establishment of two states. the first president ever to say establish and support a palestinian state next door to israelis. but first, there has to be an interlocking agreement you can trust and deal with. we don't have that now. with y

, only 2 voted against the plan by the time we were finished. we didn't raise taxes. you raised them by a trillion under obama care. we didn't cut medicare. of course, we don't have medicare but we didn't cut medicare by $716 billion. we didn't put in place a board that can tell people ultimately what treatments they're going to receive. we didn't also do something that i think a number of people across this country recognize, which is put people in a position where they're going to lose the insurance they had and they wanted. right now the cbo says up to 20 million people will lose their insurance as obama care goes into effect next year. and likewise a study of mckinsey and company of american businesses said 30% of them are at risk of being dropped. for those reasons, for the tax, for medicare, for this board and for people losing their insurance, this is why the american people don't want obama care. it's why republicans said do not do this, and the republicans had the plan. they put a plan out. they put a bipartisan plan. it was swept aside. i think something this big, this impo

to not pay federal taxes part of the 47%. oh irony thy bitter pill. mitt romney is leading among the 47% he derided in ohio. really, what can he do? what can governor romney do at this point in the campaign to turn it around? can he be funny? should he get an earring? get his hair done? what could he possibly do to try to change his fortune? i want to know what the bill press listeners think. we're at 1-866-55-press. is there any way mitt romney can win this or is he really in the lead and as dick morris and sean hannity have said, all of the polls are lying and all of the polls are fraud because it is such a liberal media. so we want to know what you think. give us a buzz at 1-866-55-press. and let's have a listen, if we can to a very fascinating piece of audio. mitt romney's garbage man who i presume, isn't part of the 47% but he's a hard working american citizen. i would imagine he's union. i would hope he is. and they tracked down one of mitt romney's sanitation workers. let's give a listen to this audio.

at a campaign event in north carolina. that set off another war of words. >> how they can justify raiding taxes on the middle class that has been buried the last four years. >> vice president biden just today said that the middle class over the last four years has been "buried." we agree. >> let's bring in the news nation political panel, associate editor and columnist for the "washington post" and msnbc analyst eugene robinson, abby stoddard, columnist for the hill, michael spir mitt romney is con nish, talk show host and chip saltzman, strategist. i would like to start off with you, is it fair to compare the two tape you the president's tape the conservatives were talking about since last night and the video of congressman ryan saying you 30% of people want to live their lives on welfare is it fair to compare these tapes, especially given the president's tape, then-senator obama, was covered by the media then? >> it a beautiful day in denver today, tamron. first of all. >> nice weather report, eugene. >> obama says nothing new on the tape and it was covered years aleen sirgany but fair it is

. >> virtually everything he said about my tax plan is inaccurate. your title as a president, you own an airplane and a house, but not your own facts. >> the president did not seem to ben his game. can one night change the race? >>> "today" exclusive, matt's rare and revealing interview with facebook ceo mark zuckerberg, how does he deal with the spotlight? and does he take responsibility for his company's recent struggles? >> the question i ask myself and i hear over and over, if a company has a billion customers, how can they not be killing it making money? >> that answer as the social network reaches a major milestone today. >>> and remember the school bus monitor taunted by middle schoolers. what she's doing to turn her story into something positive today, thursday, october 4th, 2012. captions paid for by nbc-universal television >>> and good morning. welcome to "today" on this thursday morning. i'm savannah gurthrie. >> we both had a late night. >> a lot of coffee. >> exactly. this debate as we know was billed as make or break for mitt romney. and by all accounts he made it last night, the c

't pay federal income taxes. >> there are 47% of the people who vote for the president no matter what. >> reporter: with an obama campaign ad still repeating those, romney tried to put an end to the controversy once and for all on fox. >> clearly in a campaign with hundreds and thousands of speeches and question and answer sessions, now and then you're going to say something that doesn't come out right. in this case i've said something that's completely wrong. >> reporter: romney heads next to florida where his economic message will still resonate. that state's unemployment rate while it has gone down in recent months is still well above the national average. wolf. >> jim acosta joining us, thanks very much. let's dig deeper right now with our chief political analyst gloria borger. gloria, this unemployment number, the new number, how important is it to each of these two candidates? >> well, first of all it's got to be a real boost for president obama as jessica was talking about earlier. if not reality, then also a real psychological boost to get below that 8% figure. very important

week with payroll tax. for a baby boomer that's about $60,000 before they retire. for millenniums, it's going to be even worse. these are real costs at the kitchen table. and obviously as newt gri noted, romney's plan is daz 5 trillion tax plan. it is heavily weighted towards the top. i think voters are smarter than mitt romney thinks and i think they're going to want to know the real facts. >> let's talk about virginia specifically here. this is a state where, where the race is extremely tight right now. the latest nbc news/"wall street journal," marist college poll showing 48% of likely voters supporting the president, 46% supporting governor romney. that's a virtual tie there. you can also see that governor romney gained two points from september. the president lost one. you are an expert of sorts on virginia politics. what does the president have to do to regain momentum in the commonwealth? >> well, i think he's got to keep focusing on what this means at the kitchen table in virginia. his plan is good for the middle class, romney raises taxes on the middle class. for current seni

romney's budget plan will hurt the middle class, raising taxes on the average family by up to $2,000, while giving a tax break of $250,000 to multimillionaires. doesn't mitt romney understand we can't rebuild america by tearing down the middle class. priorities usa action is responsible for the content of this advertising. >>> we want to show you live pictures coming from skyfox. we have a serious accident on 95 north at 234 in dumfries. two medevacs have been called to the scene. it is a serious accident. we know at least one person has been medevaced or is about to be medevaced and another will as well, is what our understanding is. all of this happening now, 95 north is completely blocked we understand at 234. this is in dumfries. if we get more information we'll bring that to you as well. >>> the guys may make the most noise, but the nfl says 45% of the fans are women. famous faces appear in a new campaign promoting the nfl women's apparel products. one of them is the beautiful tonya snyder, wife of redskins owner dan snyder. here she is in an ad. she joins us along with chri

, the president's approach is attractive to people who are not paying taxes because, frankly, my discussion about lowering taxes isn't as attractive to them. therefore i'm not likely to draw them into my campaign. >> but last night, romney had a complete about face. now he is denouncing that remark all together. >> clearly in a campaign with hundreds, if not thousands of speeches and question and answer sessns, now and then you're going to say something that doesn't come out right. in this case i said something that's just completely wrong. i absolutely believe, however, that my life has shown that i care about 100%. and that's been demonstrated throughout my life. and this whole campaign is about the 100%. when i become president, it will be about helping the 100%. >> cnn political editor paul steinhauser joins me now in washington. romney chose to clarify his remark on fox. no accident there perhaps. >> he was doing an interview there last night with his running mate, paul ryan. i think what you heard last night was the answer mitt romney would have given in the presidential debate wednesday ni

. it said, i believe these people. 47% of the country don't pay income tax believe they're entitled. they are always dependent on government. that's hard to take back. he can say i apologize for na and i was wrong for saying it, but i believe the damage is done. you can't put the toothpaste back on the tube. >> it took three weeks for three weeks for governor romney to say his remarks are wrong. let me play the evolution from where we got from his initial reaction to where he was last night. >> as i point out, i recognize that among those that pay no tax, approximately 47% of americans, i'm not likely to be highly successful with a message of lowering taxes. it's not he elegantly stated, let me put it that way. i'm speaking off the cuff in response to a question. >> i have a very effective campaign doing a good job, but not everything i say is elegant. >> i'm a president for 100% of the american people. that's the real percent people care about. not 99 versus 1 or 47 versus everyone else. i said something completely wrong. >> the initial remarks caught on tape, some on the right sai

's budget plan will hurt the middle class. raising taxes on the average family by up to $2000 dollars. while giving a tax break of $250,000 dollars to multi-millionaires. doesn't mitt romney understand, we can't rebuild america...by tearing down the middle class. priorities usa action is responsible for the content of this advertising. >>> veronica is here with treats. >> a forecast and treats. >> what can be better, right. >> i know. >> there's a russian bazaar taking place. off of 17th street. look at that, they sent the pastries, traditional, this is the poppy seed roll. you guys probably had it and then they got more pastries, but going on both saturday and sunday. take a look at the graphic because it's rain or shine and i'm expecting a a few showers. saturday and sunday. 70 on saturday and 55 on sunday. so, what day would you pick to go? >> i don't know. i think i'll go saturday. >> tomorrow. >> i'm going to slide the nesting dolls over to richard and see if he can put these together while i go do weather. also taking place this weekend is -- as we lose one of them. taste of bethesda a

. and keep america strong. but mitt romney's budget plan will hurt the middle class. raising taxes on the average family by up to $2000 dollars. while giving a tax break of $250,000 dollars to multi-millionaires. doesn't mitt romney understand, we can't rebuild america...by tearing down the middle class. priorities usa action is responsible for the content of this advertising. >>> back now at 8:43 this morning on how to cook everything today. the canned of of meat, bacon. mark bittman "how to cook everything the basics," and all 25 recipes will apower in the upcoming issue of "new york times" magazine. i had to bring al in with me. some real expertise. >> i won't leave. bowed my way on to this segment. >> the raw pork belly. >> this is raw pork belly, can be cured or smoked and just smoked and then we call it bacon. >> and then you can call raw pork belly bacon, too, but what we think of as bacon is usually cured in a brine and smoked or just smoked. >> here we're looking at it slide. >> thick slices. here's some diced, what you might call minced. >> and pancetta is basically bacon

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's plan to raise taxes on wealthy americans by $1 trillion saying that hits the small job market unduly hard and could result in 700,000 jobs simply evaporating. >>trace: we mention governor romney's second battle ground state the day. how is he tailoring the message to the different communities he is visiting? >>reporter: when he comes to st. petersburg area on the west coast of florida he will talk about medicare. it is an important issue through the entire state of florida. early today in virginia he was in coal country meeting with out of the work coal miners talking about what he sees his vision for coal versus president obama's vision. governor romney has been critical of the coal in the past but insists he is a friend and says president obama would be hostile. here is governor romney in virginia. >> the ahead of the epa has said the regulations on burning coal are so stringent it is impossible do build a new coal-powered plant. i don't believe putting our coal under the ground forever but we should take advantage of it and put american workers back to work and use a resource that

has the same philosophy and will do the same thing that mitt romney will do as president. lower taxes, less regulation, balance the budget. these are things that make a difference. the other thing that romney will do that the president is not doing and simply, frankly, is incapable of doing. i served with him for two years in the u.s. sete. nice guy. talented. horribly partisan. what mitt romney will do as president is the same thing that ronald reagan did and, frankly, bill clinton did. hold your principles. be tough. in the end you know you have to negotiate, and that's the only way this country can move forward. that is what president romney will do, and that's the president that people saw potential president that people saw next president they saw debating the other night. >> governor strickland, the last few seconds to you. is it going to be a closer race than it has been when we see the results come out? >> of course, ohio cannot be taken for granted, candy, by any candidate or either political party. it will be a very close race. i believe because of the president's saving of

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